{"id":219,"date":"2013-05-21T15:03:33","date_gmt":"2013-05-21T14:03:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/?p=219"},"modified":"2013-05-21T15:03:33","modified_gmt":"2013-05-21T14:03:33","slug":"just-a-funny-idea-to-think-about","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/?p=219","title":{"rendered":"Just a funny idea to think about &#8230;."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--[if gte mso 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But often it had nothing to do with that; it was rather that they thought keeping and killing animals for food is a not nice thing to do. And again: basically they were right.<span> <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span>But we are genetically designed to be omnivores. When somebody tells me that bulls are very muscular and strong and they eat grass only, I also say jokingly, that means that if I had for four stomachs and 40 meters of intestinal system and eat 30 kg of food per day, even I could be muscular too&#8230;..<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">The problem is most vegetarians have the idea that animals suffer from being kept and killed in order to feed us.<span> <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span>My first question always has been the same: so what do you eat now? The answer is obvious: plant-based food. But my second question always puzzles them: are you sure that plants do not suffer being picked, cut and eaten? <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">You might think that I have been smoking some strange stuff lately, but this is not the case.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">You see, basically I am a flower child, a hippie, just not when it was popular to be one. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Musician Stevie Wonder produced an LP, (you still know what that was?) called \u201cSecret Life of Plants\u201d. The LP was made after the book and the film with the same title. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">But before that time, several scientists stated that plants possessed ways to communicate. Two historical names must be mentioned in this case: the Indian scientist J.C Bose who in the early 1900\u2019s started doing research on plant communication and Cleve Backster, an interrogation specialist, working for the CIA, who put lie detection equipment on plants and measured their responses back in the 1960\u2019s.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/?attachment_id=227\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-227\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-227\" alt=\"bloem1\" src=\"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/bloem1.jpg\" width=\"269\" height=\"202\" srcset=\"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/bloem1.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/bloem1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/bloem1-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 269px) 100vw, 269px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">In recent years much research has been done on plant communication. Yes, plants indeed have an intrinsic communication system, and they also communicate with each other and therefore developed rather sophisticated communication systems for that.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Of course when confronted with a threat, a goat or a bug, plants can\u2019t run away, so they developed a simple way of chemical warfare. They produce toxic substances that make it unpleasant to eat them or better still harm the attacker. But that is not all, they also warn their neighbours by producing volatile messenger substances that danger is imminent and so the neighbours also start producing these repellent substances in advance. Still it gets stranger, other plants may produce substances that attract the natural enemies of the bug that attacks them. So the old saying applies: the enemies of my enemies are my friends. Pretty neat isn\u2019t it?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">But the chemical way is not the only way plants communicate, they also produce acoustic signals, so basically: plants can talk. We always jokingly say: boy, if this tree could talk &#8230;. and yes, they can talk, it seems, but we just aren\u2019t able to understand them&#8230;.. yet.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/?attachment_id=228\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-228\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-228\" alt=\"DSCF1461\" src=\"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/DSCF1461.jpg\" width=\"271\" height=\"203\" srcset=\"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/DSCF1461.jpg 2304w, https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/DSCF1461-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/DSCF1461-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 271px) 100vw, 271px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">So, plants are autonomous, perceptive organisms capable of complex, adaptive behaviours, including the recognition of self\/non-self.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Then what about the rights of plants? Since we seem to agree that animals have rights, shouldn\u2019t plants have rights too? Just think about it. Is a rose worth less than a mouse, an orchid less than an peacock, a sequoia less than an elephant?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Yes, vegetarians draw a line, we respect that of course, but do they also <b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\"><i style=\"mso-bidi-font-style: normal;\">realize<\/i><\/b> they draw a line, and where and why they draw it?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Book: The secret life of plants, by\u00a0 Peter Tomkins and Christopher Bird (1973)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/?attachment_id=226\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-226\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-226\" alt=\"DSCN0966\" src=\"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/DSCN0966.jpg\" width=\"270\" height=\"202\" srcset=\"https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/DSCN0966.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/DSCN0966-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/helpingthebesttogetbetter.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/DSCN0966-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 270px) 100vw, 270px\" \/><\/a> <\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Film: The secret life of plants, by Walon Green (1979)\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7_X2Z9v8-6Q\"><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">http:\/\/http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7_X2Z9v8-6Q<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Articles:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Gaglianoa, M: Green symphonies: a call for studies on acoustic communication in plants;\u00a0 Behavioral Ecology, advance access 25 Nov. 2012.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Koechlin, F: The dignity of plants; Plant Signalling &amp; Behavior; Vol4, No1, 2009, pg. 78-79.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Gagliano, M; Renton, M; Duvdevani. N; Timmins, M; Mancuso, S: Out of sight but not out of mind: alternative means of communication in plants; PLOS One, Vol.7, No.5,\u00a0 May 2012, pg.1-9.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-US\" style=\"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US;\">Gagliano, M; Mancuso, S; Robert, D: Towards understanding plant bioacoustics; Trends in Plants Sciences; <span role=\"menubar\">Vol.17, No.6, 2012, pg. <\/span>323-325.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--[if gte mso 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